I've been a White Sox
fan since the early 1970s, when my uncle introduced me to his favorite team. For a kid living on the Northside of Chicago--in enemy territory--it was a hard road. But there were others similarly afflicted. That's why I'm so excited about my recent interview with Steve Gierman. Steve has been collecting baseball cards on and off since 1983. In the past few years, he has focused his attention to collecting only cards of the Chicago White Sox and his two favorite players--Baines and Fisk. We discussed his collection and his love of the White Sox in the following interview:
ephemera: As a White Sox fan, I'm eager to hear why you selected the team as the focus for your card collection.
Gierman: To understand my interest in White Sox baseball cards, I have to recall a few key events that shaped my youth. I had always enjoyed playing baseball with my friends, but I was oblivious to any type of professional baseball being played. I can remember sitting in my bedroom, in 1982, turning the knob to flip through the television channels. I came across a baseball game on channel 44, which was a local UHF station in Chicago. It was a White Sox game, and I’m almost certain that they were playing the Blue Jays.
I had no idea when these games would be televised, so I would channel flip until I found a baseball game. I would watch any game that was played, but I preferred watching the White Sox. I enjoyed listening to Ken “Hawk” Harrelson and Don Drysdale call the games on television and I liked the style of play that the White Sox brought to the game. Players like Harold Baines, Carlton Fisk, and Richard Dotson brought the game I played with my friends to life.
In 1983, my dad surprised me with a pack of Topps cards. I didn’t have a clue that the people I watched play my favorite game were being immortalized on cardboard. Most of the pack was cool, but nothing that exciting. Then I got to the card of Alfredo Griffin. There was something about the expression on his face, while desperately trying to hold on to the ball, that captured my young imagination. I was instantly hooked. For the next few years, I tried to get my hands on any card I could. It didn’t matter who was on it or what team he was on. I had delusions of grandeur of collecting every single card out there. With only three companies producing cards, it seemed like an attainable goal as a kid.
My dad started to take me to White Sox games shortly after that. Seeing the players that I admired in person was the biggest thrill for me. It didn’t matter if I met them or not. I was just glad to be privileged enough to see them play in person. The sounds and sights of old Comiskey Park were enough to make a lasting impression on me that still brings a smile to my face. Every time that the White Sox hit a home run, the scoreboard exploded in a colorful array of fireworks. The players, the food, the fireworks and the organist, Nancy Faust, all were a part of my growing love for the White Sox.
ephemera: Excuse me, I'm getting misty-eyed. Did you begin consciously, knowing what you would collect, or did you just one day discover what you were doing?
Gierman: When I began collecting cards, I tried collecting everything under the sun. This led to a lot of disappointment and frustration. I was never able to complete any of my Topps sets as a kid. I didn’t have the resources available to realistically get it done. This led me to stop collecting baseball cards at two different times in my life. The first time was after 1987. My interest started to wane from collecting everything and not being able to complete sets through the packs I would buy at the corner drugstore or through trades. The kids that I would usually trade with started to move away from the area. I was stuck with opening whatever packs my allowance could buy.
I started to move into what other kids were collecting, just so I could have a chance at completing some sets. I got into Garbage Pail Kids for awhile and gravitated towards comic books for a few years. Both of those were fine for something different, but couldn’t satisfy what I really wanted to collect.
In 1990, I started buying packs at the corner drugstore again. This time, I found many more packs to choose from. A few other companies, like Upper Deck and Score, had started in my absence. The card companies that I grew up with expanded with sister sets. I picked up me first Bowman and Leaf cards that year. I was able to complete a few sets in 1990, with the help of factory sets that I received at Christmas. I had all the cards in the set, but it didn’t feel right. I missed the fun of the hunt. I have never bought another factory set since 1990.
The next year, I reached my peak in collecting. I was unimpressed with the majority of the product coming out, so I cut back my pack buying. I bought what I thought would be my last pack in 1994. There were too many releases coming out and the price was starting to skyrocket past my comfort level.
While I never boycotted baseball, the 1994 strike hit close to home. The White Sox were the favorites to go to the World Series and that never had a chance to happen. It took awhile, but baseball won me over again. I had always kept an eye on the games when the strike was over, but with each passing year, the games became more important in my life. It was about the feeling of my youth and the pure joy of the game.
Then around 2004, I started to collect team sets on eBay. I had to learn everything that happened in the hobby since 1994. It was like starting from scratch. I pulled out my old collection and started to sort through everything again. I vowed that I would start collecting again because it was something that brought me great joy in my life. I would only collect what really mattered to me, which was White Sox cards. As long as I had eBay, I would be able to collect only the White Sox cards and not be forced to buy something I didn’t want.
In 2007, I picked up my first pack of baseball cards in 13 years. It was all downhill from there. I had started to pick up packs again. Then, I graduated to blaster boxes and finally to hobby boxes. I kept true to my vow though, although with a slight tweak. I only collect White Sox cards, but I have expanded that to also include my two favorite players from my youth, Harold Baines and Carlton Fisk.
ephemera: Oh, I remember 1994. Thank goodness for 2005. And Harold is one of my all-time favorites. Robin Ventura, Bo Jackson, and Bucky Dent are also on my favorites list. What challenges or obstacles do you encounter in compiling this collection? How do you overcome these challenges?
Gierman: The biggest obstacle would be the team’s popularity. The White Sox don’t have as many cards as the Yankees or the Red Sox or even the Cubs. Since the team isn’t in the top 5, many eBay sellers will concentrate on selling cards of the more popular teams. I bypass that by trading with other collectors. This way of collecting also connects me to my youth. I get a kick out of each trade I complete. Everyone has different tastes and different ideas of what I want in return. Everyone has found something that I needed though and I love the variety in each trade.
Since the team generally has fewer cards available, the White Sox collectors tend to pounce on the same items. I have overpaid for some cards because of other collectors bidding on the same card. I usually set limits for each card. If I can’t find it under a certain amount or the bidding goes past a certain point, I can let it go without losing any sleep. I quickly learned the subtle nuances of bidding on eBay and have gotten better results out of my experiences.
A particular tricky part about collecting only specific cards of a team or a player is the parallel cards. Sometimes there seems to be an infinite amount of parallel cards for a release. Usually these cards are limited to as few as one card produced. My attitude towards those cards varies. Usually the lower the number is, the more I’ll resign myself to the fact that I probably won’t be adding it to my collection. If I happen to get it, that great, but I won’t stress myself over it if I don’t.
Being a team collector, the short print card has been another obstacle that I’ve encountered. The 2007 Topps Turkey Red set has two short print cards featuring White Sox players. Including the short print cards, the team set is only 6 cards. That makes it a bit difficult to complete a set. As of this writing, I’m still one card short of completing the team set for that release.
I would say that the most annoying trend that I run into is the cards of a player that feature him in one uniform and list him, on the card, on another team. This makes my task that much more difficult. My definition of a complete team set includes those cards listed as being on the White Sox and any card that features a player in a White Sox uniform. Many times I have to physically see the card to know if a recently traded player on another team is featured in his White Sox uniform. It can cause a lot of frustration completing a set this way, but it is soon replaced by a sense of accomplishment.
ephemera: What are your favorite items in the collection? Do you have a 'crowning jewel' or 'show stopper' in your collection? If so, what is it?
Gierman: While I love all my cards equally, I am especially proud of each Harold Baines and each Carlton Fisk memorabilia or autographed card that I pick up. Some people are impressed at my complete 1968 Topps team set, while others are amazed at my cards from the fifties or my autographed Frank Thomas 1990 Topps rookie card, which was signed in person in 1990.
I have four cards that I love to show off. The first is my 1933 World Wide Gum V353 card of Ralph Kress. World Wide Gum is basically the Canadian version of Goudey. The 1933 Goudey is one of the more iconic card releases in the 20th century.
The second card that I will show off is a 2005 Donruss Elite – Passing The Torch card featuring pieces of bats from Carlton Fisk and Magglio Ordonez. The card is numbered 125/250.
If anyone still needs impressing, I pull out my 2007 Triple Threads relic card of A.J. Pierzynski, Kelvim Escobar and Josh Paul numbered 29/36. It features bats from Pierzynski and Paul, plus a uniform swatch from Escobar. Essentially, this represents the famous third strike call from the 2005 ALCS, where Pierzynski made it safely to first base after Josh Paul rolled the ball towards the pitcher’s mound thinking that it was the final out. He never tagged Pierzynski, so when A.J. ran to first, he ended up being safe.
If I still can’t convince someone, I pull out my 2005 Playoff Absolute Memorabilia – Team Six relic card. It features uniform swatches from Bo Jackson, Frank Thomas, Sammy Sosa, Hoyt Wilhelm and Harold Baines. It also has a jacket swatch from Carlton Fisk. This usually silences people when I show that card off.
ephemera: Oh, I loved watching LaMarr Hoyt pitch. Speaking of pitchers, I also liked "Black" Jack McDowell and Floyd "The Barber" Bannister. What resources do you recommend for those who wish we had the time to assemble a White Sox card collection? And also talk about how to care for a collection of this type.
Gierman: I subscribe to Beckett’s online baseball card price guide. From there you can look up almost any release of baseball cards. I have found a few team sets that they don’t have included in their online database, but for the most part, Beckett is pretty extensive. The magazine itself is going through a lot of change at the moment. I would still recommend picking one up to catch up on recent releases. If you are looking for oddball releases, you will find most of them in the online database. It’s searchable by year, player, or set name.
I would also recommend the Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards book for a searchable print version of the cards that are out there. It is definitely a valuable resource.
The best sources for uncovering information on some card releases are the baseball card blogs. Most of the bloggers are very knowledgeable and very willing to share information. A good beginning point is eBay. Do not buy without doing your research first! There are unscrupulous sellers out there. I have seen cards misrepresented and overpriced too many times. The best advice that I can give is to know the cards you are looking for. It will save you a lot of money in the long run.
When I store my cards, I use a variety of methods. For the bulk of my collection, I use Ultra Pro pages and store them in D ring binders. I’ve tried other pages, but Ultra Pro is the best to store your cards properly. Don’t be fooled by the cheap pages that you can find at places like Wal-Mart. There may be 100 pages there for $5.00, but you are sacrificing the longevity of your cards by going cheap.
There are several methods to store thicker cards. I use a magnetized hard plastic protector to store my Triple Threads Pierzynski relic. One side hooks into two slots and the other side is held together by magnets. I’ve never had a problem with it opening unexpectedly and the card is well protected.
Other cards are first housed in penny sleeves and put into a rigid plastic toploader. Some are in screw-down hard plastic protectors. The best method is one that you are comfortable with and protects the card. I only put certain cards in hard plastic. Most of my collection is in plastic pages. I have always believed that cards should be protected, but still be allowed to breathe. After all, collecting should be about the fun you experience and that can’t happen under thick, hard plastic.
ephemera: Thanks, Steve. Great tips and stellar advice. This interview brought back a lot of great memories for me. Go White Sox! And let's hope 2008 brings the title back to the Southside of Chicago.